hi ladies,
i am involved with a beautiful womens gathering that has a flourishing maidens ceremony welcoming maidens into the red tent.
there is also a few older girls- think mature 8 to 12 year olds- who have not yet begun their moontime,
they are very interested in the discussion circle with the maidens and have pushed? their way into those discussions a little prematurely. there is a call from the elders and from their mothers to have a discussion circle and an activity/ceremony for these young ones, who are strong in their power, to celebrate them exactly where they are at- to free the older circle to go a little deeper in their discussion, and to call the girls back into themselves- while honoring their curiousity, we want to help them to have something to look forward to later, and help them to feel the specialness of being right where they are.
my thoughts thus far are to create a piece of theater with them where they can share their message with the little little girls (and the full gathering) about why it is wonderful to grow up a girl, to cast them into their own elders role among the daughters, to name their curiousities and also share their strengths, their heroes, create their own special rites of passage in the stage of girlhood.
i write to welcome any thoughts from wise women here who have daughters of this age and would like to share what it is they think their daughters would enjoy or need, ideas from any who have created ceremony for this age, and general inspiration. give thanks!
i am involved with a beautiful womens gathering that has a flourishing maidens ceremony welcoming maidens into the red tent.
there is also a few older girls- think mature 8 to 12 year olds- who have not yet begun their moontime,
they are very interested in the discussion circle with the maidens and have pushed? their way into those discussions a little prematurely. there is a call from the elders and from their mothers to have a discussion circle and an activity/ceremony for these young ones, who are strong in their power, to celebrate them exactly where they are at- to free the older circle to go a little deeper in their discussion, and to call the girls back into themselves- while honoring their curiousity, we want to help them to have something to look forward to later, and help them to feel the specialness of being right where they are.
my thoughts thus far are to create a piece of theater with them where they can share their message with the little little girls (and the full gathering) about why it is wonderful to grow up a girl, to cast them into their own elders role among the daughters, to name their curiousities and also share their strengths, their heroes, create their own special rites of passage in the stage of girlhood.
i write to welcome any thoughts from wise women here who have daughters of this age and would like to share what it is they think their daughters would enjoy or need, ideas from any who have created ceremony for this age, and general inspiration. give thanks!
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Re: seek ceremony ideas for younger ones (b4 moontime)
Tue, April 22, 2008 - 8:35 PMHeya ~
I saw your post back when you wrote it but waited to reply because I don't have children that age and do not have a ton of suggestions for you. However, I wanted you to know that your question was heard.
Anodea Judith, in her book "Wheels of Life" (which is about the chakra system in the body), says that from age 7 to age 12, the chakra that is being formed or manifesting itself most fully is the 5th chakra or throat chakra. To me, this makes sense because kids at that age are really coming to terms with language... writing, sentence structure, verbal skills, expressing themselves in different situations, etc, etc. To her, this age is very much about the mind, both the expansion of it (through new experiences and places and activities) and the creative use of it (through music and art and new ways of doing mundane, traditional activities.)
I believe this is the age when girls are often at their most powerful and comfortable within their own skins. I have a friend who was an elementary teacher and is now a children's librarian, and she has often quoted books to me that state the cohesiveness of "girlhood" before puberty sets in. Girls at that age are like wild horses; they want to run and they will knock you down if you get in their way because, oftentimes, they can not control their boundless energy. And maybe they don't need to control it... just channel it. So maybe you create activities that will give these younger daughters a supporting role in the Red Tent... like they plan and make a food spread. Maybe they create soothing eye pillows for the women who show up... or fancy, home-made journals for the teens who want to journal their experiences.
You need to find ways for them to hold meaningful roles in the Red Tent. They want to be part of the experience... and they should be... but, in my opinion, girls this age don't limit themselves. So, if you let them "push" their way into a discussion that is inappropriate (or, at the very least, above their level of comprehension), they will do it. And they'll keep doing it, because it's a rush for them. They're experiencing power, their power. That's exciting, no matter what age you are! And it's good but only if their power is channeled in a direction that helps to hold the sacredness for every individual there.
That's my opinion. Now back to your regularly scheduled broadcast.....
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Re: seek ceremony ideas for younger ones (b4 moontime)
Thu, April 24, 2008 - 7:40 AMHi there,
I agree with the above post. I also don't have children of that age--I am a pediatric nurse and someone who has made a study of gender, gender identification, and general gender studies my whole life.
I wanted to add that I appreciate, as a woman, the attention that is being given to these girls in your community. I think that in addition to what Michelle said about coming into high verbal skills and feeling their own power, girls this age are, in general, also teaching each other how to be competitive. School-yard bullying among girls is powerful, subtle, and often missed by teachers and other students. It is, as Michelle said, verbal. We learn as preadolescent girls how to manipulate each other, humiliate each other with words and social shunning, how to establish power over each other. It happens with boys too, just often at a later age and mostly in a physical way, and the human community recognizes it.
Any attention given to young girls at this age that teaches them to cooperate with each other, to work as a team and to appreciate each other's gifts and contributions helps to change that pattern. If we can bring them up to treat each other with compassion and appreciation, instead of competition and power-over, we can help them become stronger women, women who aren't affected so with jealousy for each other. I find that many adult women struggle with jealousy and competition among their sisters, and there are so many who assume that that is just the way it is. We were taught how to react and think that way, and we taught each other how to do it, when we were little girls in the schoolyard.
Kudos to you and your community for reaching out to these girls and seeking a way to include them, and to work together cooperatively. I personally appreciate it! :) I like the idea of a "show" for the other women and girls, it would give them the opportunity to be seen and to verbally share, and I also liked the idea of making small gifts for the women in the tent, as a way to help them really understand that there is a natural process and physical initiation that happens when they are ready for that part of the community. Good luck, and thanks again! :)
Love!
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Re: seek ceremony ideas for younger ones (b4 moontime)
Sat, May 24, 2008 - 3:20 AMember,
thanks for posting on this and leading me to this tribe!
all i can say is i have an 8 year old and i just say "amen" ...
while it was sort of brushed on above, what i see at this time, in addition to just the use of the throat chakra for speaking, expressing, etc., that when dealing with the throat chakra, we are also dealing with understanding. there is a great natural questioning at this time and not too many people question. i find at her school, the level of inquiry into anything is so shallow, they are not taught about thinking to reach understanding, or a level of understanding that satisfies them so they can most perfectly express themselves.
thanks again ember, and the holders of the space for this tribe.
peace & harmony,
elaine
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Re: seek ceremony ideas for younger ones (b4 moontime)
Wed, May 28, 2008 - 10:15 AMI so love the dialogue here around these issues and over my life I too have given them a lot of thought.
First, when I look into the culture at large our young girls are already being pushed into womanhood at a very early age. Belonginess can be such a driving source. And the feminine itself is actually quite powerful so this girl child is powerful right from the getgo. Our discussions then have a lot to do with how we are going to weave society to meet the ongoing needs of our people, our young, ourselves, our elders in such a way that our most natural cycles (buds, flowers, seeds) have an opportunity to mature and ripen in our right timing.
For some years I ran a weekend program called Girl Adventure with girls from 9 to 13 years of age. If they went through and were older they would come back and staff with the younger ones. Every once in a while we also had with us a very precocious 8 year old. Each time we took twenty and each time we filled to capacity. I still hear Girl Adventure praises from the ones who went through it. It was obviously a very needed experience. Being someone who does Rites of Passage ceremonies for older children and women in our communities I can say that this age group we are discussing is a very important time to catch.
How I did this with my own daughter who is now twenty was this. On her 9th birthday I told her that her spiritual training would now begin to prepare her for when she was older. I brought her special clothing, jewelry, journals, and tools that were hers during this time and I committed to bringing her to the sacred mountain we lived by one day a month with an overnight. I hoped later when she began her moontime it would also show her how to step into her own space and honor her womanhood with a retreat to the mother earth. I asked her what she wanted to learn about and during this time it was all magic related by her own direction because if given their space girls are in WONDER at this stage. We went on many herb walks and we listened and observed nature. We built fires and walked in the darkness under the stars. We giggled like mad and adventured into unknown moments. My daughter now is a lover of adventure. She is comfortable and comforted by nature.
And then once a year we were joined by 19 more girl children, a staff, and lots of women in our community that wanted something wonderful for girls. During this time, we camped and made fire together with special chants. We were visited by a theatrical ritual greeting of the spirit of the mountain. We swam in the rivers, hiked at night, sang to them in the caves, brought them up on the highropes women (and we are talking 40 feet on belays). We made a 1/2 mile trail of golden thread and upon following it alone through the forest they were met by goddesses who taught them about internal qualities and they loved the dark goddesses the best of course (other tribe writing I can pull up from somewhere). We held council and we danced to the drums. We brought them home to nature, each other and to us, the women who would mentor them. We began deep relationship that has lasted over time.
When there is something for them, they will easily wait.
I notice in the Red Tent Temples it is actually this age group that is most excited by them. Do we hold them at bay? I have not. Because I know too soon that we might lose them to another kind of culture that threatens to kill their deep caring, their wonder off. I want to catch them now. I ask them to leave for our circle time as they must wait to bleed before they can join us then. But yes, the door to the Red Tent Temple is open for them to learn that we are here, we are calling to them and we see them as the girls who will grow to be the wisewomen. What do they ask of me, of us, when they are older? Teach us your skills. We are the ones who will need to deal with what is coming. Do not hold back.
This conversation here is critical.
More.
Action is needed all around.
Society can change if we the women weavers weave new threads and patterns into the life's design. Our girls are waiting.
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